From FC Blutgrätsche 07's thread.  See here

Almost all the facilities are reworked now.
So I decided to make some detailed calculations on it.

1. I calculated the amount of spectators or fans you need to run it with a profit.
2. Further I calculated the time you need to gain a payback of your investment in two different ways:

(a) Including building costs of a single level, maxed out income + interest, investment + lost interest

(b) Including the combined costs of all upgrades to the specific level, maxed out income per level + interest on it, investment + lost interest, facility construction time;
So (b) is a rather complex view on facilities concidering you start building on level 0 and upgrade again as soon as possible to your desired level while maxing out income. This is more real view because you don't wait for a payback before you upgrade again. Don't add season numbers for each level. It's already all included in the combined payback calculation.
This simulates the fastest possible upgrading in the game.

Interest is very important and makes a huge difference to calculations without!
The calculations are based on the 17 home games as you are not garanteed additional cup games.

Here is what I got:

FastFood
Lvl / build when avg. spect / payback seasons (a) / comb. payback (b)
1 ............. 556 ......................... 1 ....... ..................... 1
2 ............ 2622 ......................... 21,42 ........................ 4,17
3 ............ 5387 ......................... never ....................... 11,33
4 ............ 9101 ......................... 9 .............................. 10,25
5 ........... 14506 ......................... never ........................ 15,92
6 ........... 20374 ......................... 8,08 .......................... 12,25
7 ........... 28679 ......................... 3,25 ............................ 7,5
8 ........... 41895 ......................... 2 ................................ 5,58
9 ........... 62497 ......................... 2,58 ............................ 5,67
10 .......... 83082......................... 0,58 ........................... 4,67

Never means, that profit out of interest is always bigger.
You should pass such a level as fast as possible or don't build it.


MerchStand
Lvl / build when avg. spect / payback seasons (a) / comb. payback (b)
1 ............. 556 ......................... 1 ................................... 1
2 ............ 2622 ......................... 18,75 ............................ 3,83
3 ............ 5387 ......................... never... ........................ 10,33
4 ............ 9101 ......................... 8,25 .............................. 9,33
5 ........... 14506 ......................... 88,67 ........................... 14,33
6 ........... 20374 ......................... 7,42 ............................. 11,17
7 ........... 28679 ......................... 3 ................................... 7,08
8 ........... 41895 ......................... 1,83 ............................... 5,33
9 ........... 62497 ......................... 2,42 ............................... 5,33
10 .......... 83082......................... 0,58 ............................... 4,5

Never means, that profit out of interest is always bigger.
You should pass such a level as fast as possible or don't build it.


Sausage
Lvl / build when avg. spect / payback seasons (a) / comb. payback (b)
1 ............. 556 ......................... 1 ............................... 0,83
2 ............ 2622 ........................ 18,75.......................... 3,52
3 ............ 5387 ......................... never ......................... 8,42
4 ............ 9101 ......................... 6,75 ........................... 7,75
5 ........... 14506 ........................ 32,25 .......................... 11,5
6 ........... 20374 ......................... 6,33 ............................ 9,25
7 ........... 28679 ......................... 2,58 ............................ 4,5
8 ........... 41895 ......................... 1,58............................. 4,08
9 ........... 62497 ......................... 2,08 ............................ 4,33
10 .......... 83082......................... 0,5 ............................. 4,25

Never means, that profit out of interest is always bigger.
You should pass such a level as fast as possible or don't build it.


Restaurant
Lvl / build when avg. spect / payback seasons (a) / comb. payback (b)
1 ............. 405 ......................... 0,58 .......................... 0,58
2 ............ 2119 ......................... 2,17 .......................... 1,5
3 ............ 4493 ......................... 3 .............................. 2,25
4 ............ 7778 ......................... 2,25 .......................... 2,5
5 ........... 12709 ......................... 3,33 .......................... 3,08
6 ........... 18091 ......................... 2,33........................... 3,33
7 ........... 25866 ......................... 1,5 ............................ 3,25
8 ........... 38468 ......................... 1 ............................... 3,25
9 ........... 58343 ......................... 1,25 ........................... 3,67
10 .......... 78232......................... 0,33 .......................... 3,38

--> Seems to be the best facility to earn some cash.


Merch Shop
Lvl / build when fanclub / payback seasons (a) / comb. payback (b)
1 ............ 1176 ......................... 0,67 ............................ 0,67
2 ............ 6057 ......................... 7,08............................. 2,25
3 ............ 8490 ......................... 25 ............................... 5,33
4 ........... 10925 ......................... never.......................... 11,33
5 ........... 13363 ......................... never.......................... 25,25
6 ........... 15803* ....................... never ......................... never*
7 ........... 18245* ....................... never ......................... never*
8 ........... 20689** ..................... no data ....................... no data
9 ........... 23135** ..................... no data ....................... no data
10 .......... 25583**...................... no data ....................... no data

* It'll hardly pay back. In the combined payback calculation you can never regain the lost interest of your investment!
** No data of building costs. So hard to judge if it's worth. But I suppose it's even worse than level 6 + 7.

--> Building costs should get changed!


Floodlights
Level / build when avg. spectators
1 ........... 50608
2 ........... never***

*** You are forced to have level 2 when playing international. So if you qualify build it and when out of int. cup downgrade it. It's even worth downgrading just for a few weeks till you play again international next season.


Toilets and Parking
Level / build when avg. spectators
1 ............ 3241
2 ........... 10657
3 ........... 18668
4 ........... 27019
5 ........... 35617
6 ........... 44411
7 ........... 53368
8 ........... 62464
9 ........... 71683
10 ......... 81011

Don't forget that your stadium must have the capacity to cope with the additional fans. So e.g. for Level 10 you need a stadium capacity of at least 90000 or 100000 for both (parking and toilets lvl10).

Payback-times depend here on how many fans you are above the limit where you start to be profitable (that is told you by these numbers). One more fan won't bring back your investment, but several 1000 more will help to regain your money fast.
Also consider that this also boosts your F&D and merch sales. Toilets and Parking are very useful if you have the right level.



Last Update: Feb, 3rd, 8:40h